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Hi again @Linray,

I'm afraid I don't have the census return from 1921 for your father, only a transcript of it as I access the 1921 census through a friend. I'll send the transcript to you but it also contains a few of my 'scribbles'. From info gleaned from my friend, your grandmother, Jane Isabella, seems to have married (Lavery, living Stakeford) and in 1921 has one daughter, Daisy. She thinks that Mary (full name Mary Alice Cropp Giles) was adopted by a couple in Blyth, surname Francis. 'Cropp' is probably the father's name just as Forster is the father's name in the Giles family. This was very common practice. You will see on the 1921 census transcript that even Mary Ann Giles has had a name added - Cavagin - and this is probably her father's name. This should give you a few streets to go down in your search. I'll scan the 21 transcript and get it off to you some time today.

5 hours ago, Linray said:

Hi really interesting photos does anyone's parents or grandparents know a Forster Giles brought up in bebside or bedlington area grateful for any info on him and does anyone know if 1921 censor regarding the bedlington furnace area has been released yet thanks

Hi @Linray If you go back to the posts of July last year you'll find that I researched Forster Giles for you then and found what I believed may be the family you were looking for in Bebside Furnace.

There was no ”Forster Giles” in the 1911 census but the head of the household, a widower, and his 17 year old son both had the surname Giles. Living in the same dwelling was Isabella Forster, widow, housekeeper to the afore mentioned. There were also 6 ”boarders” ranging in age from 3 to 16. The two oldest borders also had the surname Giles and I presumed these to be Isabella’s children. The remaining 4 boarders aged 3 to 12 also had the surname Giles but had been given the middle name Forster. I presumed then, rightly or wrongly, that these were the result of ’extra- curricular’ housekeeping duties – a not uncommon practice at the time, if surnames in the area are anything to go by.

The 21 census is indeed available and there I can see that family has moved to Bedlington Station and is recorded as living at at 27 B(ack) Clayton Street, Bedlington (Station). The head of the household in 1911, Robert Forster, for whom Isabella Giles was a housekeeper, is not there. He may have died or Isabella may have moved. Isabella, now the head of the household, is still recorded as a widow, but it may be that she is now a widow for the second time ,if she had married Robert Forster in the intervening 10 years.

Of the six ”boarders” in 1911, the oldest girl, now about 26 years is not recorded and neither is the oldest boy, now about 22 years old. They may be married or working away from home which was common. The remaining four, all single and now aged 14, 15, 16 and 24 are resident and their relationship to Isabella now becomes clear as all are recorded as sons and daughters of Isabella, which suggests my theory on paternity may just be correct.

There is also an addition to the family which will certainly be of interest to you - Forster Giles, born Bebside, aged 5 years is recorded as Isabella’s grandson. He bears the surname Giles, having Forster as a first name. He may be the illegitimate son of Mary Ann Giles, 24, still single, living with her mother and working as a brick maker ath the Bedlington Station brickworks. He may also be the legitimate son of any of Isabella’s sons visiting his grandmother,

Hope this helps.

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Fantastic photos. Don't think I've seen any of them before!

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My tap-dancing teacher, June.

My OH who listens patiently to my ramblings about all things Bedlington.

My next door neighbour (I use the expression ”next door” in its vaguest meaning as it’s 2km away).

The people of Ashington, Cramlington, Blyth and Morpeth who nurtured my love of leisure and physical activity.

Postman Pat.

My father and his fellow leek-growing enthusiasts who taught me that asking two questions was always better than asking only one.

My mother, for teaching me to understand that the real honour lies not in winning but in taking part.

I’m still grateful to Esther at the corner shop and equally grateful to Geordie Collis the colliery ’poliss’ for something or other.

A special mention goes to:

My hairdresser, for all her efforts to achieve the impossible.

B.U.D.C

Billy the butcher.

King Charles III

The walruss and the egg man.

The Encyclopedia Britannica.

Tommy Cooper …

… and last but by no means least,

my cats, Tickle and Pint-Pot.

Thank you all once again!

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Have a good one!

P.S. I’m not making resolutions this year. No one likes a skinny, sober bitch anyway.

Well spotted! I believe the Infant school and junior scchool were in the same building, therefore I'm suggesting the larger of the two schools (Bebside was well populated at that time and families were large). Speaking of time, I see I wrote 1909. That should have been 1906. Sorry. The school records show my father admitted to the school May 1906. He was then 5½ years old. Two years later he was "transferred to Boy's Dept". The same seems to apply to all pupils - 'moved to boys dept or to girls dept'. The head teacher was the same and the word 'dept' suggests the same building.

There certainly was in 1924 (see map) and many years prior to that as my father was taught there in 1909. Just checked, it's on the 1898 map as well but I doubt if school photos were around then. It was still there in 1948 so there might just be a chance of photos from that time.

Answers to last week's quiz:

1. 16th

2. St Stephen

3. 8 (No Rudolph)

4. The ghost of Christmas to come

5. Because of his red nose

6. Germany

7. Clockwise

8. A hen

9. True

10. Radishes

11. Mince Pies

12. John Horsley

13. Canada

14. 12

15. Silver

16. Of course there is. Who do you think does all the organizing and present wrapping!

17. England

18. Norway

19. NORAD :North American Aerospace Defense Command. Started 1955

20. The Christmas Song

No, Covid hasn't taken a grip on us again (yet), I just thought you should have something to keep you out of mischief while I'm celebrating Christmas here today, one day earlier than you, as is the tradition. It might even keep you out from under the feet of those slaving away in the kitchen up to their eyes in brussel sprouts, mince pies and turkey giblets. There is no (well, not much) Covid but you're still allowed to use the internet so get yourself a drink, put your feet up and get cracking!

Christmas special:

1. In which century was the term ‘Xmas’ coined?

2. Which saint is celebrated on 26th December?

3. How many reindeer feature in the poem ‘Twas the Night Before Christmas’?

4. What is the name of the last ghost to visit Scrooge in ‘A Christmas Carol’?

5. Why did the other reindeer laugh at Rudolph?

6. Stollen is the traditional fruit cake of which country?

7. In which direction should you stir sweet mincemeat for good luck?

8. What is a female turkey called?

9. Before turkey, a traditional English Christmas dinner included a pig’s head smothered in mustard. True or false?

10. Part of the Christmas celebrations in Oaxaca City, Mexico, is Noche de Rábanas. Which food gives the festival its name?

11. Which Christmas food is considered to bring good luck if eaten on all of the twelve days of Christmas?

12. Who designed the first Christmas card, sent in 1843?

13. Which country is the largest exporter of Christmas trees?

14. How many days do we have between Christmas and the Epiphany?

15. Which of the following was NOT a gift given by the wise men to the baby Jesus: Frankincense, silver, myrrh, gold?

16. Is there a Mrs Santa Clause?

17. Which country is credited with the Christmas beverage Eggnog?

18. From which country is the Christmas tree, traditionally placed in Trafalgar Square, London, a gift?

19. Who tracks Santa’s location on Christmas Eve? Bonus point for when it started.

20. In 1946 Nat King Cole recorded a song about “chestnuts roasting on an open fire”. What was the name of the song?

I’ll bet you didn’t know ….

Prior to the turkey being introduced as Christmas fayre, people ate geese, boar’s head and even peacocks at Christmas. Henry VIII was the first to enjoy a turkey on Christmas day.

Answers on Thursday next week.

21 minutes ago, Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) said:

Wilf is on the move

Wilf? here's me calling him Alf! Will he ever forgive me!

That's what two weeks in Tenerife have done for my memory!

You lot and your sooty chimneys! It takes me ages to get the washing dried when my man's been to your place! But he assures me he'll manage to squeeze himself in again this year - and he's promised me a tumble dryer for Christmas!

We wish you all a very merry Christmas, loads of turkey, heaps of mince pies, many chunks of Christmas cake, lashings of brandy butter and rum sauce, mulled wine in abundance, two alka-seltzer and a couple of Rennies.

Have a nice one!

Whoopee! Alf's out. That means that it's officially Christmas. so let the festivities begin.

On 03/12/2022 at 16:14, Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) said:

same outfit as 2021

Definitely not a bitch then! No self-respecting female would be seen dead in last years togs.

That was interesting reading (the first one). I'll give the second one a miss!

@Symptoms @The 14th battalion was made up of ”men in reserved occupations and those under or over age to serve in the armed forces”. Do you know if those men would be volunteers or conscripted?

1 hour ago, Symptoms said:

This posting is not meant kickstart the Brexit debate here!!!!

Thank God for that!

I'm still thinking this photo is in Vulcan Place, perhaps opposite the pub. If you look at old maps there was no building going on in Vulcan Place until sometime 1870 - 80. The rest of central Bedlington is a great deal older. It's reasonable to believe that stone-working skills had improved from the rough cuts seen in the earlier photos.

20 hours ago, Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) said:

I asked Janice Henderson (who named the 3 Morgan's in the photo) if she could find out the approximate year based on Sadie Morgan's DoB. Janice did comment that she would ask her relatives who had researched the family.

Sadie is the diminutive name of the name Sarah. James and Mary, both born 1895 in Bedlington, had a daughter Sarah Jane, born 1914. They had two other children: William George born 1918 and Phyllis born 1919. I think the child in the photo, if she is known as Sadie, is probably Sarah Jane. Could the photo have anything to do with the end of WW1? Early 1920s?

Thanks Eggy! I'll have a look at that.

On 13/11/2022 at 19:36, Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) said:

I can't track down any building with the large stone. clean cut, bricks.

There aren't a lot of photos of Vulcan Place but clean cut bricks appear often in Bedlington's east end, especially noticeable in the buildings on the south side. Have a look in the gallery "Drinking establishments" for buildings around the Black Bull. We need some better photos.

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I’m going to stick my neck out and say that it’s not a stone’s throw from the Barrington Arms in Vulcan Place. The clothing of James and Mary Morgan - no coats and James with his sleeves rolled up (possibly ready for, or even at, work) seems to suggest that they’ve just stepped outside for a minute, rather than be off on an outing. The woman in the front row is even wearing her slippers.

I knew i'd seen it somewhere! Now, if I could only find where i saved it on my PC!

On 30/10/2022 at 16:50, Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) said:

Breaking news, the Liverpool manager has resigned, he's taking his family back to Germany. The Klopps went back this weekend.

You'll need to explain this one for me