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  1. And here are a couple of photos of Second Street/Plessey Street: This is the whole colliery area showing the four rows in question: Nearest thecamera is Third street followed by Plessey Street (2nd Second Street), Second Street (1st Second Street) and last is First Street. Here you see the gable ends of L - R Second Street (1st Second Street, Plessey Street (2nd Second Street) and Third Street viewed from the northern end (next to the railway line). Finally, this is Third Street viewed from the northern end. Plessey Street (2nd Second Street) is opposite so it's a mirror image of your grandparents home.
  2. OK Martyn, here's the info I mentioned about Second Street vs. Plessey Street. It's a long document but I think it's worth posting for future reference: 1911 census, the enumerators round followed this route around the colliery: First Street 1-32 (3 rooms), 1st Second Street 1-27 (4 rooms), 2nd Second Street 1-30 (3 rooms), Third Street 1-25 (4 rooms) Addresses given by a) Residents and b) Enumerator for dwellings in Second Street Netherton1911 census. Details in brackets are amendments to the residents entry made by the enumerator. Deletions made in the form of crossing out also made by the enumerator and the address amended to match his own records. I can add here that even one resident of First Street gives his address as Plessey Street. So great was the confusion. Note that two residents refer to their address as Plessey Street “West”. I find this odd as it would have been the eastern part of Second Street adjacent to First Street. a)Resident b)Enumerator (1st) Second Street 1st Second Street 2 Plessey Street 2 Second Street 2 Plessey Street 2 1st Second Street 2 Plessey Street West 2 1st Second Street 3 Plessey Street 3 1st Second Street 4 Plessey Street West 4 1st Second Street 5 Plessey Street 5 1st Second Street 6 1st Second Street 6 1st Second Street 7 Plessey Street 7 1st Second Street 9 (1st) Second Street 9 1st Second Street 10 Plessey Street 10 1st Second Street 12 Second Street 12 Second Street 13 (1st) Second Street 13 1st Second Street 14 (1st) Second Street 14 1st Second Street 15 Plessey Street 15 1st Second Street 17 (1st) Second Street 17 1st Second Street 19 (1st) Second Street 19 1st Second Street 20 (1st) Second Street 20 1st Second Street 21 (1st) Second Street 21 1st Second Street 22 (1st) Second Street 22 1st Second Street 23 (1st) Second Street 23 1st Second Street 24 (1st) Second Street 24 1st Second Street 25 (1st) Second Street 25 1st Second Street 26 Plessey 26 1st 2nd Street 27 1st (Second) Netherton 27 1st 2nd Street 1 (2nd) Second Street 1 2nd Second Street 2 (2nd) Second Street 2 2nd Second Street 3 2nd Second Street 3 2nd Second Street 4 Plessey (2nd Second) Street 4 2nd Second Street 5 2nd Second Street 5 2nd Second Street 6Plessey (2nd Second) St. 6 2nd Second Street 7 Second Single(Second) Street 7 2nd Second Street 8 Second Street 8 2nd /2nd Street 9 2nd Street 9 2nd Second Street 10 Second Street 10 2nd Second Street 11 2nd Second Street 11 2nd Second Street 12 Second Street 12 2nd Second Street 13 second Street 13 2nd Second Street 14 Second Street 14 2nd Second Street 15 Second Street 15 2nd Second Street 16 Second Street 16 2nd Second Street 17 2nd Street 17 2nd Second Street 18 Second Street 18 2nd Second Street 19 Second Street 19 2nd Second Street 20 Second Street 20 2nd Second Street 21 Second Street 21 2nd Second Street 22 Second Street 22 2nd Second Street 23 2nd Second Street 23 2nd Second Street 24 2nd Second Street 24 2nd Second Street 25 Second Street 25 2nd Second Street 26 Plessey Row 26 2nd Second Street 27 Second Street 27 2nd Second Street 28 Second Street 28 2nd Second Street 29 2nd Single Row 29 2nd Second Street 30 Second Street 30 2nd Second Street Any questions, feel free to ask.
  3. Hello Martyn and welcome to the forum! I was born 1947 in Howard Row but the family was moved shortly after - also to Hartford Road - when those houses were to be demolished. We returned to the colliery houses prior to my starting school in 1951when a house in Third Street, across the road from Plessey Street, became vacant. About the name Plessey Street, there’s not much more that I can say than that which I said earlier -Nov 19 2016 in the topic ‘Plessey Row, Netherton’. The houses were built around 1905 and comprised 4 rows of houses built around 3 ‘thoroughfares’ - or ‘streets’. The rows were then named First-, Second-, and Third Street BUT Second Street comprised two rows of houses which shared one ‘thoroughfare’. It was these thoroughfares that gave the address of the various dwellings, rather than the dwellings themselves. For identification purposes, the rows of houses appear to have been given, at least officially, the names: 1st Second Street and 2nd Second Street. However, there appears to have been a great deal of confusion even among the residents. I’ll post some evidence of this shortly. During my lifetime in Netherton that shared thoroughfare was never surfaced with concrete as were the other two to the east and west – First- and Third Street. It remained an area of rough ground with quite a lot of weeds. As it was flanked by the front doors (the 'posh' entrance you could say) of Second Street’s two parts, it was hardly ever used for other than funerals when coffins were taken out through the windows of the front room because a coffin leaving by either the front- or the back door was physically impossible. All services to Second Street dwellings: coal delivery, bakers-, butchers- fishmonger’s vans etc. went via the back yards of the properties facing First- and Third Street which were used for access. I sometimes wondered if that rough area had at some time been a small garden area. First and Third Street had large gardens outside their front doors - much larger than would have been possible for the two parts of Second Street. From at least 1951 (my earliest recollection of Netherton) Second Street residents had no garden but had access to an allotment on the site of what used to be the gardens of the former South Row to the east of First Street. This row must have been demolished prior to the building of the 1905 housing. There are plenty of photos of the four rows of housing in the gallery – Historic Bedlington/Netherton-Nedderton Old Photos OR Netherton-Nedderton Old Photos 2.
  4. It's Friday already! 1. Which instrument is used to measure the strength of earthquakes? 2. In which country is the source of the Amazon? 3. What name is given to the cultivation of plants without soil? 4. What was the Christian name of the Mr. Marks who set up penny bazaars with Thomas Spencer in 1887? 5. Which stretch of water separates Denmark from Sweden? 6. Which two cartoon characters were used by the Ministry of Food during WW2 to promote the benefits of vegetables? 7. Who had a Top Ten hit with Jo le Taxi? 8. Who chose Ottawa to be the capital of Canada? 9. The volume of what shape is equal to a third of the area of its base multiplied by its height? 10. Androphobia is the fear of who or what? 11. How many years of marriage are celebrated in a china wedding anniversary? 12. Which former Prime Minister was created Earl of Stockton in 1984? I’ll bet you didn’t know …. A bumblebee can fly at speeds of up to 11 km per hour. Answers on Thursday next week.
  5. Great pity. John D. Tindal does have living relatives in both England and America.
  6. Answers to last week's quiz: 1. 1983 2. Whooping Cough 3. Julio Iglesias 4. Kingfisher 5. Roscoe 6. Colorado 7. Ordinal 8. Judy Garland 9. Battle of the Nile, also known as Battle of Aboukir Bay 10. 1997 11. Zinc 12. Juniper New quiz tomorrow.
  7. I thought you wouldn't! Now, store that piece of info safely away, cos you never know when I (or anybody else for that matter) might ask you about it. Knowledge is never a heavy burden to bear.
  8. Thanks Eggy! I see from the other photo that it's not exactly the 'tray' I thought it was. The last time I saw anything like that - chalice, bottle and case (I'm assuming it's a set) - it was being used to administer the last rights in a hospital. It's called a Last Rights Box. The bottle contains holy water. Come to think of it, the IHS could stand for Jesus but I think the one I saw had IHC.
  9. I don't suppose you could ask Lewis Barker, who posted the photo of the tray, where it was found? In Bedlington? If so where?
  10. I must have missed your album as i can't remember seeing those pages before. That's my bedtime reading sorted out for tonight! That Chronicle of events is very interesting, not only for the Tindal information. First. I can see that Netherton 'store' - the co-op - was established in Jan 1903 which fills another gap in my knowledge of Netherton. Second, I see that in August 1894 a "Mr R Studdy" was appointed General Secretary of the bedlington Branch. That's the father of Louis William Studdy, who i mentioned above as living in Jesmond with his aunt and uncle, Isabella and James Tindal. P.S. I've just found the entry in the register of deaths for John Davison Tindal. His death was registered in the third quarter (July/August/September) of 1947 which fits in rather nicely with the date on the tray.
  11. This is a mystery ! See Maggie’s topic, started 26 July 2013 “Bedlington Equitable Industrial Cooperative Society”. I think that the John Davison Tindal (Secretary) named in the list of officers of the society is the same person. Note the name is spelled Tindal, rather than Tindall – as inscribed on the tray. The Tindal’s (one L) seem to have been a relatively well-to-do family in Bedlington - the type of family who could present such a tray. The 1881 census records the parents of John D Tindal living on Front Street, Bedlington. His father, James - born in Nottingham, is a tailor by trade and his mother Isabella (born about 1855 in Bedlington) has the same profession. They have, as well as John 4 years old and born in Bedlington, a daughter aged 5 years (Lizzie?) and another, Maria, aged one year. Hoever, they don’t appear to have always lived there. James and Isabella get a mention in in the North East War Memorial project in relation to Louis William Studdy, whose family are living in Ridge Terrace, Bedlington while he, Louis William, is resident at” 4 Fairfield road, Jesmond - with his uncle James Tindal, a tailor’s cutter and his wife Isabella, born 1855 in Bedlington”. By the time the 1911 census was completed, John D Tindal, was 24 years old and, like his father, a tailor by trade. He was then living in the last house on Burdon Terrace, nearest West End, and married to 29 year old Dora A.G Tindall, a Greengrocery shopkeeper. John D Tindal died 1947 aged 70 years (therefore, born about 1877). It may have been trough his tailoring that he was connected with the Cooperative Society. I can’t help wondering where the Church of Christ was/is situated in Bedlington and if the tray was found in the same building or somewhere else. Could it have been wrongly inscribed by the engraver and therefore never presented to the Church of Christ? Otherwise, it surely still belongs to the church? 1947 wasn’t so long ago.
  12. I had no problem seeing that video Vic. Lovely! Has Percy opened the lid himself or do you leave it open for him?
  13. Here's this week's brain-teasers. I have to admit that only knew the answers to four questions. No points for guessing that nr. 12 was one of them! 1. In which year was the wearing of front seat belts made compulsory in England? 2. Pertussis is the medical name for which infectious disease? 3. Which Spanish singer was a goalkeeper with Real Madrid before a car crash ended his career? 4. Which bird was once known as the Halcyon? 5. What was the first name of the silent film star Fatty Arbuckle? 6. In which American state is The Garden of the Gods? 7. If one, two and three are Cardinal what are First, Second and Third? 8. By what name did Frances Glumm become better known? 9. At which battle of 1798 did the boy stand on the burning deck? 10. In which year was Hong Kong handed back to China? 11. Which metal provides an outer protective layer when iron is galvanised? 12. The berries of which evergreen tree are used to flavour gin? I’ll bet you didn’t know …. Pigeons in Venice were once fed grain mixed with contraceptives to stop them breeding. Answers on Thursday next week.
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