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  1. Ex-pats, how about planting a tree? Of course, we'd have to get Malcolm to do the digging - or at least delegate it to someone.
    3 points
  2. A very nice read! Written 1955 - 1959. I base that on two statements in the book: 1.The rateable value for the Urban District for 1955 is published on page 21. I'd suggest that was the most recent information available at the time of writing. 2. The Old Hall, mentioned as being well worth a visit on page 10, was demolished 1959.
    2 points
  3. Sid Newman lived in No 1. Am I correct in assuming that Joyce Dagless is your wife’s sister? She worked at the glove factory and married Colin Hall who was undermanager at Bates Colliery and they moved to Smoky River coal mine when it opened in the late 60’s.
    2 points
  4. Im good at that seemingly Canny Lass!
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  5. Good idea, I'd probably sponsor a tree for the Dagless family.
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  6. I suspect if I plant any more trees in my garden my neighbours will be complaining in 10 years time about loss of “ancient lights “. However I’d welcome @Malcolm Robinson’s advice about which public areas I could plant a tree or two without breaking any by-laws? Please? Rx
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  7. Och! @Canny lass, I was down there this morning- glorious Autumn walk from home following the currently bone-dry course of the Green Letch North into Choppington woods and out adjacent to the Travellers Rest, where we did rest, at the bus stop and took the lazy way home. I’m absolutely useless at gauging distance but it’s a 5-7 minutes leisurely walk along to Whinney Hill Farm from the Travellers Rest heading towards Guidepost. I’ve attached a screenshot of the area, the farm 3rd turnoff on the right, just above the road number A1068. Hoping this is of some help?
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  8. Yes, it certainly wasn't hard to have a pub crawl way back then! I think many pubs in those days were named by the landlord rather than the brewery as is often the case today so it seems reasonable that the landlord would choose something familiar, to him in general and to his prospective clients in particular.
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  9. On the contrary - I've no memory of there being a Traveller's Rest in the area. Clearly my youth was not as misspent as I believed it to be. This Sir Colin Campbell beer house is a mystery. Clearly it was named so at some point between 1858-9, when the area was surveyed, and 1866 when the map was published. The 1871 census also gives the name as The Traveller's Rest and this is presumably the correct name. However, the 1871 census shows it as being occupied by a Scottish couple - James and Elizabeth Miller – both born in Scotland – aged 29 and 24 rears respectively. They have a daughter aged 4 years who was born in Bedlington. This suggests that they have lived in the area since about 1866 and could possibly have changed (or at least attempted to change) the name to The Sir Colin Campbell should they have taken over the pub around the time of map's publication. I've now completed my reading on Sir Colin Campbell, his life and times and now draw the conclusion that he himself had no connections with the shire. However, looking around the Choppington, Guidepost, Scotland Gate area 1861 - 71 it does appear to be heavily populated wth residents of Scottish origins - more so than Bedlington. It seems to me likely that the name, The Sir Colin Campbell, (and possibly the name The Lord Clyde) may have been a tribute to the man by his fellow Scotsmen. A question: Does anybody have any idea how far Whinny Hill Farm is from The Traveller's Rest? I've never been any good at judging distances but 27 chains is about 1/3 of a mile. Would that fit the bill? @lilbill15 you n Max have any idea from your walks? Anybody regularly drive that way?
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  10. Not that this will help your cause but I can't resist mentioning the Travellers Rest in the mid to late 1960's. The Travellers Rest was the pub every dart player, and anyone else from their pub would want to go to. For an away match at any other pub it was your own transport or public transport to get there. The Percy Arms dart team hired a minibus when they were away to the Travellers and the team and any other person that could be crammed into the minibus spent the rest of the evening, including a lock-in at the Travellers. Normally after a darts match the home team landlord would come out with a couple of plates of sarnnies - plate of cheese chunks with crackers and a dish of pickles. The away team would grab a sarnnie, sup up and get back to their pub for the last hour but that didn't happen at the Travellers. The away team stayed at the Travellers till well after closing having a few more pints plus the best spread of food laid on at any of the darts matches = Yorkshire puddings - roast tatties - plate upon plate of sarnnies - cheese and crackers - pickled onions - crfisps and probably food I have forgotten. Well after 23:00 minibus back to Bedlington
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  11. I’m still looking for a connection between Sir Colin Campbell and Bedlington. Today I had a look at the 1861 census for Bedlington, District 8 which is described by the enumerator as comprising: “Whinny Hill, a farm house and two cottages an off farm planted by Mr Robt. Swann Bedlington, Scotland Gate, being one row of Double two stories houses & a few Back Cottages there is two Publick Houses. A few trades man shops & houses the private dwellings being mostly all occupied by coal miners. Choppington Colliery, is just a new one? The miners cottages are close adjoining and comprises one row (Cross Row) of Double houses these houses have two rooms on the ground floor & two sleeping rooms, or garrets above there are other four Rows of single Cottages being all nearly two storey Houses, that is one room, one garret, one pantry, one Ash pit & privy & one Garden. Peas Bush is an old sort of a place being formerly an off onstead for Choppington farm but now occupied by Choppington Colliery”. Here is the 1866 map again but this time covering the whole of that area: Following the enumerator’s route, it’s not difficult to identify The Sir Colin Campbell beer house in the enumerator’s book for 1861. As he says, “There are two Publick Houses” in his district and, as his enumeration route starts at Whinny Hill Farm and works its way to Peas Bush, the first must be the Choppington Inn and the second must be The Sir Colin Campbell. Looking for it in the enumerator’s book I was hoping to find the residents with a good old Scottish name who had proudly named there beer house after a fellow Scot. I was disappointed. In 1861 the building is a public house called the Traveller’s Rest. The innkeeper , named Elliot, was born in Cawsey Park, Northumberland and his wife in Hartley. However, they do seem to have some Scottish connection having a 14 yo daughter who was born in Scotland. The OS map, published 1866 was based on surveys done 1858 to 1859. so it’s possible it was renamed after the survey but before Sir Colin Campbell was raised to the peerage in 1859. The name Scotland Gate has had many explanations over the years and no one really knows its origins. My wanderings in the area, via the census of 1861 caused me to think of yet another. At that time, the area we know as Scotland Gate today has no name on the map, but we can see that it is basically one long street fronting the main road between Whinny Hill Farm and Choppington Colliery. ‘Gate’ in place names, often originates from the Old Norse gatu/gata meaning street. Looking at the census today, I was surprised to see the number of people born in Scotland who are living there. I counted 25 people in 15 families. Could Scotland Gate simply refer, locally, to a street where many Scots lived?
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  12. Forget that, Eggy. I've just found both of them on the same map from 1866:
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  13. @lilbill15 Mystery solved. Ninette is advertised in the booklet that Eggy just added to the gallery. You'll find it on page 2.
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  14. @lilbill15 The jam-making has given way to wine making. Elderberries are looking good and I've just made a batch of mead from the mountain of tomatoes needing to be taken care of before they become over-ripe. It sounds strange but it's really very good (and very easy to make). I've just read about Puce Bush in the Name Book. If anything remains of it, you should find it "About 10 chains SW of Choppington Colliery". Looking forward to the photos.
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  15. @Canny lass Hej! x Hoping you’ve conquered the great jam crusade ❣️. Me’nMax are just back from a Puce Bush Farm expedition, the vegetation is now knee high, down from thigh high in midsummer. I’m determined to find remains of the habitation and expect January ish to be able to send you a downright riveting photo of a stone or maybe 3!! Bestest regards Roseanne 🌈😁x
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  16. .... and an even more belated happy Birthday from me! Hope the day was good to you.
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  17. Happy belated birthday Malcolm.........😂
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  18. @rosco - unfortunately must of the active members on this site no longer live in the Bedlington area - I'm Seghill🙂
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  19. September History Walk 25th at 1:30 . Everyone to meet at the War Memorial I was going to post about this walk nearer the time. David Cowan is very knowledgeable about all things Bedlington . It should be an interesting walk . In the Shire we have so much history spanning the centuries . Sometimes the experts do not agree which keeps my interest . Last night a programme on Sir Walter Scott on BBC4 made reference to Border Tales . We are lucky to live in this area . So much inspiration for everyone . Maybe I am biased ..
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  20. What a pity I don't live nearer! I hope that @lilbill15 can give us a short written account of the walk.
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  21. 'Pop' Short in the Upper Bensham Seam 1955
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  22. Sorry Vic - always thought it was No 1
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  23. Afternoon lilbill15 - must be your Tablet software/operating system - all my emails from my email provider, btinternet.com, are picked up, from my email server, by Microsoft Outlook package that I have installed on my Desktop PC and for each email I receive there is always a 'Go to this Post' highlighted that when selected takes you to the actual post. My wife uses a Samsung Tablet and I know when she asks me to check anything out on her tablet I get frustrated. I'm so used to a large screen display where normally all options can be seen and accessed from the first screen that is presented, on whatever site you go to. But the Tablet screen being much smaller can't display all the options and it's normally via the three dots, at the top right of the screen, that other options etc. are accessed. This is normally the first screen I get when I go direct to the group site :- I should add that I stick to a Desk Top Pc, with full size keyboard, as my attempts to select options on a small Tablet screen do result in me selecting the wrong option and frustrating myself. Add to that my fingers don't always go to the right area on a Tablet or mobile device and my involuntary reflex actions of the hand and fingers more often than not result in me selecting options I have never dreamed of . I can't use a mobile phone to access the www. I have a 2G mobile, no access to www, that has one use - it goes in the car and is there in case I break down and have to call for assistance. I'm sticking to 21" Desk Top Pc's ⌨️
    1 point
  24. Update to the names = 4 of the Swan family :-
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  25. Dinna worry lilbil15, we 'll get there even if we hae ti gaan back ti two tins and a bit o strrring!
    1 point
  26. The Redpath's from Hollymount Square - Brian lived in No. 3 (or was it No. 2?) and his dad was called Fenwick. Robert lived in No. 53 and his dad was called Jimmy. Fenwick and his elder brother Jimmy both worked at the Doctor Pit.
    1 point
  27. Hi Folks, the only thing I recognise, is the Jordans Coach!.. aam I right?! Brian and Rob Redpath were my school, and home friends, lived in Hollymount Square, Brian qas in my class, and on the Infant School 1950 photo, but I never knew their Dad's names.. well, we were brought up with respect, to call older people.. Mr, and Mrs!.. such was life back then!
    1 point
  28. Top right holding banner - Peter Muldoon 2nd from left front row - Jimmy Redpath Centre front row holding scroll - Anty Thompson I can confirm Lawrence Thompson and Stuart Young are correct. I recognise the others but cannot remember their names. They were committee members of the Doctor Pit branch of the NUM
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  29. No, no, no! You must never give in! Yes, it's very possible your G nan dropped initials - or even whole names. It's also possible that someone else was doing the 'dropping'. In the case of census records the original household form was transcribed into the enumeration book and these don't always match. The book has been further transcribed to digital format by companies like Ancestry and again, they don't always match. People didn't always give their regitered name and simply wrote down the names in every day use and lastly the birth reister birth certificates) doesn't always match the baptismal register. Forms didn't always have room for all names and the writer sometimes abbreviated to an initial or simply missed out a name. Going back a hundred years or so, parents waited much longer to baptise their children than they do today so many had time to think and the baby got an extra name at the baptism which doesn't appear on the birth certificate, So, you need to think of all those possibilities, variations, additions and transcribing errors when you research. When I first looked at your query regarding Margaret Alice Walker I couldn't find anybody with that name: I only found Margaret Jane Walker or Alice Jane Walker with that birth year and birth place. Margaret Alice Jane showed up first in baptismal records and marriage records for the appropriate year and place. So it's possible your G nan got an extra baptismal name. Two of them had parents named Henry and Dorothy (but two completely different couples) and one of them had parents named Michael and Mary J. I chose to follow one of the henrys because of the Blyth connection. I can't say with certainty if Elijah on the marriage certificate is from Haltwhistle. Even the marriage certificate wouldn't give that information - only his residence at the time of the marriage. However, it would give the name of Margaret Alice J's father which would solve the query of her parents. Myself I'm 95% certain that it is the same Elijah because so many other things fit in. Had he simply been called Elijah Smith I wouldn't be sure but how many Elijah 'Wilkinson' Smiths married a much younger girl named Margaret AJ Walker in that registration district in the early 1920s? I can't find any. Likewise, I am 95% certain that it is the same Margaret A J living with James Waldock in 1939. Two questions: Do you know if Margaret Alice and Elijah had any children? There are some interesting Smith births (mother's maiden name Walker) in the early 20s. Margaret Alice's twin girls - did they have the surname Smith (as Margaret doesn't seem to have married Mr Waldock) Divorce, way back, then was relatively new (1858, first divorce law) and an expensive luxury affordable only to the rich. So people chose to go their own way and "live over the brush" with someone else. I'm not sure, but I also think that it was only men who could apply for a divorce. Some, almost certainly refrained deliberately to prevent their estranged wife from re-marrying. You hint that shame or scandal may have been involved. It needn't necessarily be so. Perhaps Elijah wasn't kind and Margaret left him. Whatever the case may have been, I think your G nan must have been a very strong woman. It can't have been easy remaining in Bedlington with all the wagging tongues. Her early life was either exciting or tragic and it's up to you to get to the bottom of the mystery. If I can be of any help feel free to ask.
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  30. That’s interesting!! Margaret Alice Jane’s father was Henry Walker – born in Newsham (a district of Blyth). Shelley Crescent is in this area. 1881 Henry aged 18 is living in Shiney Row Bedlington with his parents and 8 siblings. The family seems to have moved frequently with children being born in Bedlington, Barrington, and Newsham before returning to Bedlington where the last six were born. 1891 Henry. Now 28 yo and married, is living in Dr Terrace (the next street), Bedlington at the home of his wife’s parents. This is only a stone’s throw from the boundary with Choppington where Margaret AJ was christened. However, at that time he had only one child, Mary aged 3 months. In 1901 Henry and Dorothy are living in Glebe Row, Bedlington just yards away from Doctor Terrace. They now have 3 daughters: Henrietta , Mary and Annie. Living in are two of the Dixon Family, Charles (24 yo) and Edward (21 yo) - Dorothy’s brothers. (NB: Henry has now become” Henry J”) 1911 The family have moved from the Bedlington area and are living in Newburn in the western part of Newcastle. (Henry, who himself has filled in the census form, now calls himself Harry). Two of their six children are dead. Still living at home are: Mary (20 yo, single, born Bedlington), Henry jr. (9 yo, born Bedlington) and Madge (5 yo, born Bedlington). So, the family seems to have been in the Bedlington are until at least 1896 and I believe that Madge (a common short-form for Margaret) may well be your Great nan. It’s not uncommon in census returns for parents to write the name they commonly use for their child rather than the registered/baptismal name. My grandfather was called Francis but is always recorded as Frank in census records - because that's what his parents called him. You can see here that Henry Walker does the same thing. It might be worth having a look at this family. Do any of the names I've mentioned ring any bells? Is there any history of the family moving away from Northumberland?
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  31. Hi I am unsure if this is the same person as this is Margaret A J however my G Nan is just Margaret A. However I discovered this detail although whether parent, sibling or other relative is unknown at this moment, on the reverse of a copy of the younger image...Blyth connection by the looks of it.
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  32. It's disappeared!!!! My fig leaf has blown away and taken all the silly badges with it! Thank you to whoever was responsible. normal service can now be resumed.
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  33. I'm sure you could!
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  34. This is what happens when you talk on the phone in one language and write on a computer in another language at the same time! Redigera bort = edit out, in case anybody was wondering. Clearly my multi-tasking skills are already in decline.
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  35. Oh @Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) couldn’t forget about you and the lovely folks in the group. I’m actually a contributing member so won’t lose touch. Just need to find a less convoluted way to talk to you. The recent changes have just confirmed that I can’t be chewed with this complicated website. As I said, I’ll use another door. I’m not going anywhere, just round the side door 😁🌈xxxxxxxxx
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  36. @John Fox (foxy) Never mind that one day of the year - celebrate the other 364 (365 on leap year) days and rest on that one day. If Sweden can make CL + OH ecstatic (Sweden 1 Slovakia 0 last Friday) then surely England will win tonight - whilst we are washing up
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  37. Thank you CL, yes the missus certainly did spoil me yesterday, I was allowed to cook her dinner whilst she watched the football on the telly. I was also spoiled be the daughter earlier in the day,.... she had me laying flagstones in her back garden. Pleased it's only once a year!!😄 Thanks to all for the Birthday wishes.👍
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  38. Cheers @Maggie/915 - I have posted your comment on the Bygone Bedlington Facebook group where in response to some info I posted about the Seven Sisters on the Ha'penny side of the river one member replied :- Margaret Speller - Thanky ou for this information, I'd never heard about this. Bedlington is certainly a wonderful place to live. I'd love to join a history group.
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  39. Photographs of the two Police Officers who were shot and killed
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  40. @lilbill15 Congratulations! I see you've been promoted to "Apprentice (3/14)". Maybe we're getting points for using the side-door as well? I agree, the recent changes have taken the fun out of the site, but don't give up yet. Andy is very good at listening to- and sorting out site problems. The personal messaging service seems to have escaped the ranking system - should you have any queries and don't want to post till it gets sorted.
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